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Accurate Methodology For Monitoring Biomembrane Events, Christine A. Winschel

Theses and Dissertations

Abstract ACCURATE METHODOLOGY FOR MONITORING BIOMEMBRANE EVENTS By Christine A. Winschel, Ph.D. A Dissertation submitted in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree of Doctorate of Philosophy in Chemistry at Virginia Commonwealth University. Virginia Commonwealth University, 2012 Major Director: Dr. Vladimir A. Sidorov ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR, DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY This study describes the synthesis and characterization of a new receptor (cyclen 1) capable of strong selective binding of pyrene-based anionic dyes under near-physiological conditions. This receptor comprises four naphthylthiourea groups tethered to a cyclen core via an ester linkage. The most important finding was the ability of cyclen 1 to …

Studies On The Preparation, Immobilization, And Luminescence Properties Of Zinc Oxide (Zno)Quantum Dots, Yasemin Hakat

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

Quantum dots are a part of very important our technological future because of their intriguing and useful properties. These properties are different in character from those of the corresponding bulk material. Quantum dots are inorganic artificial semiconductor nanocrystal whose electrons influence their physical and chemical properties. Zinc oxide quantum dots were synthesized through an ethanol based precipitation via colloidal synthesis method at various pH values. Various emission colors were obtained because the excited quantum dots of various sizes emitted specific wavelengths of light. The emission spectra indicated that the pH dependent quantum dots were successfully synthesized. Zinc oxide quantum dots …

Ionic Materials For Applications In Sensing And Optoelectronics, Sergio L. De Rooy

LSU Doctoral Dissertations

Organic salts consist of bulky anions and/or cations whose properties can be tailored for specific purposes. Ionic liquids (ILs) are (semi)organic salts with melting points below 100 ºC. They typically exhibit neglible vapor pressures, high thermal stability, wide liquidus range, and tunable solubility. Moreover specific functions can be built into their respective ions. The first part of the dissertation involves discussions of chiral ionic liquids with additional protic, magnetic, and magneto-luminescent properties, respectively. In addition to their enantioselective sensing capabilities, the ILs may find use in chiral separations and catalysis. The second part of the dissertation involves discussions of fluorescent …

Understanding The Emission From Semiconductor Nanoparticles, Beth Ann Manhat

Dissertations and Theses

This dissertation describes the synthesis and characterization of fluorescent semiconductor nanoparticles (NPs) in order to optimize their biomedical utility for imaging and sensing applications. While both direct and indirect bandgap semiconductor NPs have been studied, control over their emission properties vary. Quantum confinement (QC), which primarily controls the emission wavelength of nanosized semiconductors, dictates that as the size of semiconductor NPs decrease, the magnitude of the bandgap increases, resulting in changes in the observed emission wavelength: smaller NPs have a larger bandgap, and thus a bluer emission. However, surface, interfacial, or shell defects can act as non-radiative or radiative recombination …

Development Of A Bio-Molecular Fluorescent Probe Used In Kinetic Target-Guided Synthesis For The Identification Of Inhibitors Of Enzymatic And Protein-Protein Interaction Targets, Katya Pavlova Nacheva

USF Tampa Graduate Theses and Dissertations

Abstract

Fluorescent molecules used as detection probes and sensors provide vital information about the chemical events in living cells. Despite the large variety of available fluorescent dyes, new improved fluorogenic systems are of continued interest. The Diaryl-substituted Maleimides (DMs) exhibit excellent photophysical properties but have remained unexplored in bioscience applications. Herein we present the identification and full spectroscopic characterization of 3,4-bis(2,4-difluorophenyl)-maleimide and its first reported use as a donor component in Forster resonance energy transfer (FRET) systems. The FRET technique is often used to visualize proteins and to investigate protein-protein interactions in vitro as well as in vivo. The analysis …

A Study Of The Effects Of Titanium Dioxide Nanoparticles On The Fluorescent Intensity Of Fluorescent Compounds In The Presence Of Known Quenchers., Vivian Dzigbodi Koka

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

Titanium Dioxide is a naturally occurring oxide of titanium. It has a wide range of uses in commercial products for providing whiteness and opacity. It has photocatalytic properties and can also be used to produce electricity in its nanoparticles form. This research is focused on investigating the effect of titanium dioxide nanoparticles in analysis of compounds using luminescence-based techniques. Quenching, which is one of the basic problems of fluorescent measurements, was studied in the presence of molecular oxygen and methyl iodide. The rutile phase of titanium dioxide nanoparticles was synthesized by the acid hydrolysis of titanium isobutoxide at low temperatures …

Fluorescence Probes For Cellular Thiol And Disulfide Detection: Sythesis And Biophysical Characterization, Timothy Jonhera

Dissertations (1934 -)

The total concentration of cellular thiols is about 30 mM, and use of current fluorescent chemical probes to quantitate these thiols inside cells is impractical. We recently reported fluorescent dithio probes (donor-S-S-acceptor, DSSA) with unusually low reduction potential (- 0.6 V) that can detect changes in intracellular thiols and cross membranes of bacterial and mammalian cells, but they could not quantify thiol redox state. Here we report a new variant of the DSSA series, which has hydroxy coumarin (Ex: 320 nm, Em: 460 nm) as donor and fluorescein (Ex: 485 nm, Em: 520 nm) as acceptor. The probe was characterized …

Quenching Of The Fluorescence Of Tris (2 2-Bipyridine) Ruthenium(Ii) [Ru(Bipy)3]2+ By A Dimeric Copper(Ii) Complex., Kevin E. Cummins

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

The quenching of the [Ru(bipy)₃]²⁺ by Cu₂L²⁺ was studied and the data were plotted with the Stern-Volmer equation. The plot showed a break and was divided into 2 regions, <0.5 and >0.5 Cu₂L²⁺: [Ru(bipy)₃]²⁺ molar ratio. Quenching above the 0.5 Cu₂L²⁺: [Ru(bipy)₃]²⁺ molar ratio was slower (330 x 10^-6 M^-1s^-1) than the quenching rate reaction below 0.5 ratio (387 x 10^-6 M^-1s^-1).

With Cu₂L²⁺ being a dimeric complex the …

Characterization Of The Desorption Electrospray Ionization Mechanism Using Microscopic Imaging Of The Sample Surface, Michael Craig Wood

Theses and Dissertations

Desorption electrospray ionization (DESI) is an ambient ionization technique for mass spectrometry. This solvent based desorption ion source has wide applicability in surface analysis with minimal sample preparation. Interest in improving detection limits, broadening applications, and increasing the spatial resolution for chemical imaging has led to studies of the DESI mechanism. An inverted microscope has been used to image interactions between the DESI spray and test analytes on a glass surface. Microscopic images recorded with millisecond time resolution have provided important insights into the processes governing analyte transport and desorption. These insights are the basis of a rivulet-based model for …

Drug Design, Biological Activity, And Metabolic Consequences Of Cytotoxic Platinum Compounds: Utilizing Fluorescent Tagging To Understand Drug Action And Metabolism, Brad Benedetti

Theses and Dissertations

Platinum drugs are among the most commonly used chemotherapeutics for the treatment of testicular, head and neck, ovarian, small cell lung, and colorectal carcinomas. Although the current set of platinum chemotherapeutics has proven somewhat successful, the overall success of platinum based drugs is limited due to acquired drug resistance and a limited range of tumor types that are treatable with the current regime. The development of novel cytotoxic platinum based compounds, both trans- and polynuclear, provides for the promising treatment of clinical platinum drug resistant tumors. While the cytotoxic activity of platinum drugs provides for a hopeful outlook, the ultimate …

Preparation And Studies Of Ratiometric Fluorescent Chemosensors Based On The Attenuation Of Excitation Energy Transfer, Jiba Raj Acharya

LSU Doctoral Dissertations

Molecular devices possessing pi-electron conjugated scaffold demonstrate unique capabilities as fluorescent chemosensors for the trace detection of analytes in a variety of environments. Important properties of these compounds such as charge transport and exciton migration, emission intensity etc. can be simply attenuated by external stimuli or analyte binding, leading to considerable changes in observable signals. The main goal of this Ph.D. dissertation was to study the possibility to control excitation energy migration in conjugated systems. Towards this goal, we designed surface-immobilized monodispersed oligo(p-phenylene ethynylene)s (OPEs) as a general basis for thin-film ratiometric fluorescent chemosensors. The sensor molecules have been functionalized …

Self-Assembly And Photophysics Of Selected Organic Materials And Two-Photon Bioimaging With Profluorescent Nitroxides, Polyelectrolyte Nanoparticles, And Squaraine Probes, Hyo Yang Ahn

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

Two-photon absorption and upconverted fluorescence has been utilized in a variety of applications in pure science and engineering. Multiphoton-based techniques were used in this research in order to understand photophysical and chemical characteristics of several fluorescent dyes and to demonstrate some of their key applications. Two-photon fluorescence microscopy (2PFM) has become a powerful technique in bio-photonics for non-invasive imaging in the near-infrared (NIR) region (700~1000 nm) that often results in less photobleaching. In Chapter 1, there is a brief introduction to fluorescence, examples of fluorescence materials, and a discussion of the advantages of two-photon absorption. 2PFM imaging was utilized in …

Noninvasive, In-Vivo, Tissue Modulated Near Infrared Spectroscopy Of Fingertips: Resonance Raman Spectrum Of Human Hemoglobin, Bin Deng, Jerry Goodisman, George Shaheen, Rebecca J. Bussjager, Joseph Chaiken

Chemistry - All Scholarship

Tissue modulation refers to using external stimuli such as mechanical pressure and temperature to produce various spatiotemporal distributions of blood and conceivably other fluids in tissues. Having the capacity to execute tissue modulation¹ allows forms of difference spectroscopy to be used to isolate spectroscopic signals from specific components of the tissues noninvasively and in vivo. In the case of human fingertips we can think of the tissues present in the probed volume as being static tissue, plasma and red blood cells (RBCs). Static tissues deform under mechanical pressure based tissue modulation and the only possible fluid motions2 involve plasma …

Interaction Of Extracellular Domain 2 Of The Human Retina-Specific Atp-Binding Cassette Transporter (Abca4) With All-Trans-Retinal., Esther E Biswas-Fiss, Deepa S Kurpad, Kinjalben Joshi, Subhasis B Biswas

Department of Medical Laboratory Sciences & Biotechnology Faculty Papers

The retina-specific ATP-binding cassette (ABC) transporter, ABCA4, is essential for transport of all-trans-retinal from the rod outer segment discs in the retina and is associated with a broad range of inherited retinal diseases, including Stargardt disease, autosomal recessive cone rod dystrophy, and fundus flavimaculatus. A unique feature of the ABCA subfamily of ABC transporters is the presence of highly conserved, long extracellular loops or domains (ECDs) with unknown function. The high degree of sequence conservation and mapped disease-associated mutations in these domains suggests an important physiological significance. Conformational analysis using CD spectroscopy of purified, recombinant ECD2 protein demonstrated that it …

Ultrafast Optical Study Of Small Gold Monolayer Protected Clusters: A Closer Look At Emission, S. Hei Yau, O. Varnavski, John D. Gilbertson, Bert D. Chandler, G. Ramakrishna, T. Goodson

Chemistry Faculty Research

Monolayer-protected metal nanoclusters (MPCs) were investigated to probe their fundamental excitation and emission properties. In particular, gold MPCs were probed by steady-state and time-resolved spectroscopic measurements; the results were used to examine the mechanism of emission in relation to the excited states in these systems. In steady-state measurements, the photoluminescence of gold clusters in the range of 25 to 140 atoms was considerably stronger relative to larger particle analogues. The increase in emission efficiency (for Au₂₅, Au₅₅, and Au₁₄₀ on the order of 10^-5) over bulk gold may arise from a different mechanism …

Development Of Novel Fluorescent Sensors For The Detection Of Functional And Bio-Interesting Small Molecules And Metal Ions, Wei Jiang

Chemistry and Chemical Biology ETDs

As one important kind of sensitive analytical technology, fluorescence method is widely applied in environmental science, materials, medicine pharmacy and nowadays much popularly in cellular biological science, which requires the development of diverse fluorescent sensors to meet various analytical and researching demands. During my Ph.D. study, my work focuses on the development of novel fluorescent sensors for the detection and specific recognition of functional and bio-interesting small molecules and metal ions, and the contents are described in this dissertation using three sections. In the first part, novel fluorescent sensors for the specific recognition of bio-toxic thiophenols have been developed based …

Construction, Figures Of Merit And Testing Of A Single-Cell Fluorescence Excitation Spectroscopy System, Laura S. Hill, Tammi L. Richardson, Louisa T.M. Profeta, Timothy J. Shaw, Christopher J. Hintz, Benjamin S. Twining, Evelyn Lawrenz, Micheal L. Myrick

Faculty Publications

Characterization of phytoplankton community composition is critical to understanding the ecology and biogeochemistry of the oceans. One approach to taxonomic characterization takes advantage of differing pigmentation between algal taxa and thus differences in fluorescence excitation spectra. Analyses of bulk water samples, however, may be confounded by interference from chromophoric dissolved organic matter or suspended particulate matter. Here, we describe an instrument that uses a laser trap based on a Nikon TE2000-U microscope to position individual phytoplankton cells for confocal fluorescence excitation spectroscopy, thus avoiding interference from the surrounding medium. Quantitative measurements of optical power give data in the form of …

Role Of Small Oligomers On The Amyloidogenic Aggregation Free-Energy Landscape, Xianglan He, Jason T. Giurleo, David Talaga

Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry Faculty Scholarship and Creative Works

We combine atomic-force-microscopy particle-size-distribution measurements with earlier measurements on 1-anilino-8-naphthalene sulfonate, thioflavin T, and dynamic light scattering to develop a quantitative kinetic model for the aggregation of β-lactoglobulin into amyloid. We directly compare our simulations to the population distributions provided by dynamic light scattering and atomic force microscopy. We combine species in the simulation according to structural type for comparison with fluorescence fingerprint results. The kinetic model of amyloidogenesis leads to an aggregation free-energy landscape. We define the roles of and propose a classification scheme for different oligomeric species based on their location in the aggregation free-energy landscape. We relate …

Mutational Studies Uncover Non-Native Structure In The Dimeric Kinetic Intermediate Of The H2a–H2b Heterodimer, Matthew R. Stump, Lisa M. Gloss

Faculty Publications - Department of Biological & Molecular Science

The folding pathway of the histone H2A–H2B heterodimer minimally includes an on-pathway, dimeric, burst-phase intermediate, I2. The partially folded H2A and H2B monomers populated at equilibrium were characterized as potential monomeric kinetic intermediates. Folding kinetics were compared for initiation from isolated, folded monomers and the heterodimer unfolded in 4 M urea. The observed rates were virtually identical above 0.4Murea, exhibiting a log-linear relationship on the final denaturant concentration. Below ∼0.4 M urea (concentrations inaccessible from the 4-M urea unfolded state), a rollover in the rates was observed; this suggests that a component of the I2 ensemble contains non-native structure that …

Development Of Metal-Based Luminescent Probes For Applications In Biomolecular Structure And Dynamics, Ayesha Sharmin

Graduate Student Theses, Dissertations, & Professional Papers

New transition-metal complexes containing luminescent properties have been designed and synthesized for application as structural probes for biomolecules. Potential DNA intercalators, 2- amino-anthracene substituted triosmium clusters, were synthesized by the reactions of 2-aminoanthracene with [Os3(CO)10(CH3CN)2]. The products [Os3(CO)10(μ-η2-(N-C(1))-NH2C14H8)(μ- H)], [Os3(CO)10(μ-η2-(N-C(3))-NHC14H9)(μ-H)], [Os3(CO)9(μ-η2-(N-C(3))-NHC14H8)(μ-H)2] and [Os3(CO)9(μ3-η2-(N-C(3))-NHC10H9)(μ-H)] obtained from this reaction have been structurally characterized by spectroscopic, photophysical and electrochemical techniques. Solid state structures are also reported for the complexes [Os3(CO)10(μ-η2-(N-C(3))-NHC14H9)(μ-H)] and [Os3(CO)9(μ-η2-(N-C(3))-NHC14H8)(μ-H)2]. To investigate bio-macromolecular dynamics on the sub-microsecond-to-microsecond timescale, a series of ruthenium based mono-nuclear metalligand charge-transfer complexes (MLCs) of formula [XRu(CO)(L–L)(L′)2][PF6] (X = H, TFA, Cl; L–L = 2,2′-bipyridyl, 1,10-phenanthroline, 5-amino-1,10-phenanthroline …

A New Dinuclear Lead(Ii) Complex Of 2,3-Diphenyl-Tetrazole-5-Thione: Synthesis And Characterization, Ruirui Zhuang, Fangfang Jian, Kefei Wang

Turkish Journal of Chemistry

The present work reports on the synthesis, crystal structure, fluorescence, electrochemical behavior, and thermogravimetric analysis of a new dinuclear lead(II) complex of 2,3-diphenyl-tetrazole-5-thione. Its structure was characterized by X-ray crystallography, IR spectroscopy, and elemental analysis. Each lead atom adopts a distorted octahedral geometry by coordinating to 2 sulfur atoms from 2 2,3-diphenyl-tetrazole-5-thione ligands and 4 oxygen atoms from 3 nitrates. The fluorescence spectrum shows that the title complex has 2 fluorescence emission peaks, at 412 nm and 433 nm. Cyclic voltammetry studies show that the title complex has only one reduction peak, at 0.309 V. The thermogravimetric analysis indicates that …

Studies Of Titanium Dioxide Nanoparticles And Surfactants Effects, Singly And In Combinations, On Luminescence Intensity Of Some Aromatic Compounds., Charles Anim Odame-Ankrah

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

Luminescence techniques are sensitive, selective, and widely used in analysis. Luminescence intensity is attenuated by quenchers. This research has focused on the use of surfactants such as CTAB, SDS, and TX-100 singly or together with TiO₂ nanoparticles to evaluate their individual and combined effects on some fluorescent aromatic compounds such as pyrene, fluoranthene, anthracene, phenanthrene, and carbazole. Rutile phase TiO₂ was synthesized using the low temperature sol-gel method. Carbazole and phenanthrene were severely quenched by all surfactants singly or in combination with TiO₂. Anthracene and fluoranthene showed some enhancement in their luminescence intensity. The most dramatic …

Synthesis And Characterization Of Zinc-Based Quantum Dot Materials With Blue To Green Fluorescence From An Aqueous-Based Synthetic Method, Heather Durkee

Undergraduate Honors Theses

Blue to green fluorescence is exhibited by zinc-based quantum dot (QD) materials capped with sodium polyphosphate and L-cysteine. The factors governing this final fluorescence and intensity were explored using kinetic studies. Fluorescence and absorption spectroscopy were used to monitor relative size of QDs and fluorescence intensity as a function of time. Fluorescence data shows gradual formation of an emission peak at 520 nm, and shows shifting of this emission peak to 480 nm over a 24 hr time period. Fluorescence results suggest that zinc oxide is forming on the surface of the ZnS nanocrystals and during early heating stages may …

A Systematic Study On The Absorption And Fluorescence Properties Of 2,4,6-Triaryl And Tripyridylpyridines, Esra Findik, Mustafa Arik, Mustafa Ceylan

Turkish Journal of Chemistry

Eight different 2,4,6-triaryl, and tripyridylpridines compounds were synthesized and their fluorescent properties were studied by using steady-state and time-resolved fluorescence and UV-Vis absorption spectroscopy techniques in 6 different solvents. Especially, 2,4,6-triarylpyridines showed strong fluorescence properties with high fluorescence quantum yields but small Stokes shifts.

Synthesis Of Novel Fluorene-Based Two-Photon Absorbing Molecules And Their Applications In Optical Data Storage, Microfabricatio, Ciceron Yanez

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

Two-photon absorption (2PA) has been used for a number of scientific and technological applications, exploiting the fact that the 2PA probability is directly proportional to the square of the incident light intensity (while one-photon absorption bears a linear relation to the incident light intensity). This intrinsic property of 2PA leads to 3D spatial localization, important in fields such as optical data storage, fluorescence microscopy, and 3D microfabrication. The spatial confinement that 2PA enables has been used to induce photochemical and photophysical events in increasingly smaller volumes and allowed nonlinear, 2PA-based, technologies to reach sub-diffraction limit resolutions. The primary focus of …

Room Temperature Fluorescence Spectroscopy As A Tool For The Forensic Trace Analysis Of Textile Fibers, Matthew Rex

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

Trace textile fiber evidence is found at numerous crime scenes and plays an important role in linking a suspect to the respective scene. Several methods currently exist for the analysis of trace fiber evidence. Microscopy provides information regarding the fibers material, color and weave. For more detailed chemical analysis chromatographic methods are employed and for discrimination between dyes, liquid chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry (LC-MS) is currently the method providing the most discrimination. These methods have primarily focused on the dyes used to color the fibers and have not investigated other components that can potentially discriminate among fibers. This dissertation …

Patterning High Surface Area Silica With Lysozyme: Adsorption Kinetics, Fluorescence Quenching, And Protein Readsorption Studies To Evaluate The Templated Surface, Rachel M. Greer, Brittni A. Scruggs, R Alan May, Bert D. Chandler

Chemistry Faculty Research

A method was developed for using an inexpensive and widely available protein, hen egg white lysozyme, as a patterning agent for commercial high surface area silicas. The basic patterning methodology involved spontaneous adsorption of the protein from aqueous solution, alkylation of the uncovered surface with an alkylsiloxane, and protein desorption in a slightly alkaline solution of morpholine. Adsorption kinetic studies using Bradford assays assisted in determining protein deposition conditions. These studies were generally consistent with results on more planar silica surfaces and indicated that the protein quickly and strongly adsorbs along its long axis at low surface coverages. A modified …

Studies Of Surfactants Effect On Riboflavin Fluorescence And Its Determination In Commercial Food Products And Vitamin Tablets., William Emmanuel Ghann

Electronic Theses and Dissertations

A simple and economical fluorometer using blue LEDs excitation sources and simple PMT detection had been built, assembled, optimized, and employed for measurement of fluorescence from riboflavin (vitamin B₂). Surfactants have been known to enhance the intensity of fluorescence of fluorescent compounds. Fluorescence analysis of riboflavin in the presence of various anionic, cationic, and nonionic surfactants was also conducted to determine if they could improve analysis. However, the surfactants employed did not seem to have any meaningful enhancement; in fact, some actually diminished the fluorescence intensity of riboflavin. The procedure was linear for riboflavin from 0.01 to 2.5 …

Fluorescence Characteristics Of Triazine-Manufacturing Wastewater, Lin Huang, Shuyan Qiu, Neissa Pinzon, Li-Ta Lien, Lu-Kwang Ju

Chemical, Biomolecular, and Corrosion Engineering Faculty Research

Samples taken at different points in the wastewater treatment process of a triazine-manufacturing plant were scanned by fluorescence spectroscopy, in the wavelength range of 200-900 nm. Reproducibly, the fluorescence spectra revealed one single major peak at excitation and emission wavelengths of 258 and 370 nm respectively. Aqueous solutions of purified active compounds, including Atrazine, Propazine, Simazine, Terbuthylazine, Metolachlor, and Benoxacor, were also scanned. No significant fluorescence was observed in these standard solutions at concentrations up to 100 mg/L. Selected plant samples as well as standard solutions of Atrazine, Metolachlor, and toluene were further analyzed using high-performance liquid chromatography with absorbance …

Determination Of Enantiomeric Compositions Of Analytes Using Novel Fluorescent Chiral Molecular Micelles And Steady State Fluorescence Measurements, Alicia A. Williams, Sayo O. Fakayode, Onur Alptürk, Christina M. Jones, Mark Lowry, Robert M. Strongin, Isiah M. Warner

Chemistry Faculty Publications and Presentations

Novel fluorescent chiral molecular micelles (FCMMs) were synthesized, characterized, and employed as chiral selectors for enantiomeric recognition of non-fluorescent chiral molecules using steady state fluorescence spectroscopy. The sensitivity of the fluorescence technique allowed for investigation of low concentrations of chiral selector (3.0 x 10(-5) M) and analyte (5.0 x 10(-6) M) to be used in these studies. The chiral interactions of glucose, tartaric acid, and serine in the presence of FCMMs poly(sodium N-undecanoyl-L-tryptophanate) [poly-L-SUW], poly(sodium N-undecanoyl-L-tyrosinate) [poly-L-SUY], and poly(sodium N-undecanoyl-L-phenylalininate) [poly-SUF] were based on diastereomeric complex formation. Poly-L-SUW had a significant fluorescence emission spectral difference as compared to poly-L-SUY and …