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Investigation Of Japanese Encephalitis Virus As A Cause Of Acute Encephalitis In Southern Pakistan, April 2015-January 2018, Tazeen Fatima, Abida Rais, Erum Khan, Susan L. Hills, Trudy V. Chambers, Aneeta Hotwani, Shahida Qureshi, Saad Shafqat, Saima Malik, Farah Qamar, Fatima Mir, Anthony A. Marfin, Anita K. M. Zaidi, Asif Raza Khowaja, Sadia Shakoor

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

Background: Japanese encephalitis (JE) occurs in fewer than 1% of JE virus (JEV) infections, often with catastrophic sequelae including death and neuropsychiatric disability. JEV transmission in Pakistan was documented in 1980s and 1990s, but recent evidence is lacking. Our objective was to investigate JEV as a cause of acute encephalitis in Pakistan.
Methods: Persons aged ≥1 month with possible JE admitted to two acute care hospitals in Karachi, Pakistan from April 2015 to January 2018 were enrolled. Cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) or serum samples were tested for JEV immunoglobulin M (IgM) using the InBios JE DetectTM assay. Positive or equivocal samples …

Idiopathic Pulmonary Hemosiderosis - A Rare Cause Of Chronic Anemia, Ayesha Butt, Rashida Ahmed, Muhammad Dawood Amir Sheikh, Omar Khan, Nousheen Iqbal, Arshalooz Rahman, Javaid Khan

Medical College Documents

Idiopathic pulmonary hemosiderosis (IPH) is a rare disease marked by alveolar bleeding and accumulation of hemosiderin in the lungs. Here we present three cases of IPH. The first case is of a 26-year-old male with anemia, hemoptysis and dyspnea. Bronchoscopy confirmed diffuse alveolar hemorrhage (DAH). A diagnosis of IPH was made after ruling out other causes of DAH and observing good response to steroids. The patient's condition improved with prednisolone and azathioprine. The second case is of 26-year-old female with severe anemia. Imaging suggested IPH and lung biopsy confirmed it. She died shortly afterwards. The third case is of a …

Establishing The College Of Pathologists Of East, Central And Southern Africa – The Regional East Central And Southern Africa College Of Pathology, Shahin Sayed, Rudo Mutasa, Ephata Kaaya, Victor Mudenda, Erasmus Rajiv, Edda Vuhahula, Jamilla Rajab, Robert Lukande, Edwin Walong, Angela Mutuku, Kenneth Fleming

Pathology, East Africa

Issues: The scarcity of pathologists in sub-Saharan Africa is a well established fact that is attributable to few training programmes in the region; this is further compounded by the lack of harmonised curricula, training and exams within and without member countries.

Description of the intervention: Through the Association of Pathologists of East, Central and Southern Africa, the College of Pathologists of East, Central and Southern Africa (COPECSA) was formed with the clear-cut goal of establishing a regional and internationally recognised college to support and inform good quality medical and laboratory practice by promoting leadership, mentorship and excellence in the safe …

Addressing The Shortage Of Pathologists In Africa: Creation Of A Mmed Programme In Pathology In Zambia, Victor Mudenda, Evans Malyangu, Shahin Sayed, Kenneth Fleming

Pathology, East Africa

Background: With approximately one pathologist for one million people compared to ratios of approximately 1 to 25 000 in the United States and United Kingdom, there is a severe shortage of pathologists in much of Africa. The situation is particularly severe in Zambia, where, in 2009, the ratio was 1 to 1.4 million.

Objective: To address this, a postgraduate Master of Medicine (MMed) training programme was launched in Lusaka in 2011.

Methods: The process and most significant challenges and lessons learned were documented, as they may be of value to other countries facing similar challenges.

Results: …

Labrad : Vol 46, Issue 2 - June 2020, Aga Khan University Hospital, Karachi

LABRAD - Departments of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine and Radiology Archives

• Pathophysiology of Lung Injury in Context with Novel Coronavirus 2019
• Imaging in COVID-19 Pandemic: Salient Features
• Qualitative Real-Time RT-PCR For Detection of SARS-Cov-2 RNA
• Coagulopathy and Anticoagulants in COVID-19
• AKUH Blood Bank During SARS-COV-2 Outbreak
• Significance of COVID-19 Whole Genome Sequencing
• Convalescent Plasma Therapy for COVID-19
• COVID-19: An Alarm Bell for Healthcare System in Pakistan!
• Emergency Online Undergraduate Medial Education During COVID 19
• Adopting Virtual Teaching During the Pandemic-An Overview of the Utility of ‘Microsoft Teams’ from an Educator’s Perspectiv
• The Best of the Recent Past
• Polaroid

Comparison Of Staphylococcus Aureus Nasal Carriage By Patients And Healthcare Workers In Selected Dialysis Centers In Nairobi And Neighbouring Counties, Enock Serem

Master of Medicine in Clinical Pathology

Background: Staphylococcus aureus (S. aureus) is a significant pathogen that causes both community and hospital acquired infections. The burden of S. aureus morbidity and mortality is disproportionately high in patients with end stage kidney disease undergoing dialysis. With the rising prevalence of non-communicable diseases leading to end stage renal disease and dialysis, the impact of S. aureus infections is projected to rise. Knowledge of nasal carriage of S. aureus and their antibiotic resistance profiles is essential in improving patient care through planning of infection prevention and control strategies as well as formulating appropriate empiric antibiotic guidelines. The aim of this …

Prognosticating Covid-19: A Need For Africa-Specific Laboratory Predictors, Geoffrey Omuse, Janet Maranga, Abubakar Abdillah, Daniel Maina

Pathology, East Africa

No Abstract

Eggerthella Lenta Bacteraemia In Endometrial Adenocarcinoma - A Case Report From Pakistan, Tazeen Fatima, Rumina Hasan, Samia Tariq

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

We report a case of Eggerthella lenta bacteraemia. An elderly lady with metastasised endometrial adenocarcinoma presented with complaints of fever nausea vomiting and abdominal pain. CT scan of the abdomen showed enlarged liver with multiple metastatic lesions raising suspicion of small-bowel obstruction. Due to multiple comorbid conditions, surgery was contraindicated and she was treated empirically with meropenem and vancomycin. Blood culture received on admission grew Eggerthela lenta.

Outcome Of Non-Malignant Papillary Lesions Of The Breast On Core Biopsy: An Experience From A Tertiary Care Center In Pakistan, Kulsoom Fatima, Shaista Afzal Saeed, Muhammad Usman Tariq

Department of Radiology

Background: Papillary lesions of the breast constitute a heterogeneous group ranging from non-malignant papillomas to papillary carcinoma. While surgical excision is recommended for atypical papilloma or papillary DCIS/ carcinoma on core biopsy, controversy persists in the management of benign papillomas which are diagnosed with core needle biopsy (CNB) since there are variable reported rates for tumor upgrade. The purpose of this study was to determine the outcome of papillary lesions of the breast diagnosed at image-guided CNB, after surgical excision or follow-up, and to identify potential predictors of high-risk lesions/malignancy on imaging.
Materials and methods: We retrospectively identified 52 non-malignant …

Breast Imaging Chameleon: Pseudoangiomatous Stromal Hyperplasia Presenting As Breast Malignancy, Rabail Raza, Kulsoom Fatima, Muhammad Usman Tariq

Department of Radiology

Pseudoangiomatous stromal hyperplasia (PASH) is a benign mesenchymal proliferative lesion of the breast, often an incidental finding on breast biopsy specimens and rarely presents as a palpable lump. The case being reported is interesting as a lactating female presented with gross left breast enlargement due to a huge firm mass with skin thickening and palpable left axillary lymph nodes. A provisional diagnosis of left breast malignancy was made and the patient extensively worked up with ultrasound, CT scan, bone scan and core biopsy. The histopathology, however, revealed PASH of the breast. There was no invasive or in situ malignancy. The …

Ire1Α And Igf Signaling Predict Resistance To An Endoplasmic Reticulum Stress-Inducing Drug In Glioblastoma Cells., Jeffrey J Rodvold, Su Xian, Julia Nussbacher, Brian Tsui, T Cameron Waller, Stephen C Searles, Alyssa Lew, Pengfei Jiang, Ivan Babic, Natsuko Nomura, Jonathan H Lin, Santosh Kesari, Hannah Carter, Maurizio Zanetti

Articles, Abstracts, and Reports

To date current therapies of glioblastoma multiforme (GBM) are largely ineffective. The induction of apoptosis by an unresolvable unfolded protein response (UPR) represents a potential new therapeutic strategy. Here we tested 12ADT, a sarcoendoplasmic reticulum Ca2+ ATPase (SERCA) inhibitor, on a panel of unselected patient-derived neurosphere-forming cells and found that GBM cells can be distinguished into "responder" and "non-responder". By RNASeq analysis we found that the non-responder phenotype is significantly linked with the expression of UPR genes, and in particular ERN1 (IRE1) and ATF4. We also identified two additional genes selectively overexpressed among non-responders, IGFBP3 and IGFBP5. CRISPR-mediated deletion of …

Brain Structure Changes Over Time In Normal And Mildly Impaired Aged Persons, Charles D. Smith, Linda J. Van Eldik, Gregory A. Jicha, Frederick A. Schmitt, Peter T. Nelson, Erin L. Abner, Richard J. Kryscio, Richard R. Murphy, Anders H. Andersen

Neurology Faculty Publications

Structural brain changes in aging are known to occur even in the absence of dementia, but the magnitudes and regions involved vary between studies. To further characterize these changes, we analyzed paired MRI images acquired with identical protocols and scanner over a median 5.8-year interval. The normal study group comprised 78 elders (25M 53F, baseline age range 70-78 years) who underwent an annual standardized expert assessment of cognition and health and who maintained normal cognition for the duration of the study. We found a longitudinal grey matter (GM) loss rate of 2.56 ± 0.07 ml/year (0.20 ± 0.04%/year) and a …

Maternal Inflammatory Markers For Chorioamnionitis In Preterm Prelabour Rupture Of Membranes: A Systematic Review And Meta-Analysis Of Diagnostic Test Accuracy Studies, Angela Koech, Geoffrey Omuse, Abraham Mukaindo, Marleen Temmerman

Obstetrics and Gynaecology, East Africa

Background: There is no consensus on the role of inflammatory markers in identifying chorioamnionitis in preterm prelabour rupture of membranes (PPROM). We set out to evaluate the accuracy of maternal blood C-reactive protein (CRP), procalcitonin and interleukin 6 (IL6) in diagnosis of histological chorioamnionitis and/or funisitis (HCA/Funisitis) in PPROM.

Methods: We searched MEDLINE, EMBASE and The Cochrane Library from inception to January 2020 for studies where maternal blood CRP, procalcitonin or IL6 was assessed against a reference standard of HCA/Funisitis in PPROM. The Quality Assessment of Diagnostic Accuracy Studies 2 (QUADAS-2) tool was used to assess methodological quality. Hierarchical summary …

Screening For Triazole Resistance In Clinically Significant Aspergillus Species; Report From Pakistan, Safia Moin, Joveria Farooqi, Kausar Jabeen, Sidra Laiq, Afia Zafar

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

Background: Burden of aspergillosis is reported to be significant from developing countries including those in South Asia. The estimated burden in Pakistan is also high on the background of tuberculosis and chronic lung diseases. There is concern for management of aspergillosis with the emergence of azole resistant Aspergillus species in neighbouring countries in Central and South Asia. Hence the aim of this study was to screen significant Aspergillus species isolates at the Microbiology Section of Aga Khan Clinical Laboratories, Pakistan, for triazole resistance.
Methods: A descriptive cross-sectional study, conducted at the Aga Khan University Laboratories, Karachi, from September 2016-May 2019. …

Endorepellin Evokes An Angiostatic Stress Signaling Cascade In Endothelial Cells., Aastha Kapoor, Carolyn G Chen, Renato V Iozzo

Department of Pathology, Anatomy, and Cell Biology Faculty Papers

Endorepellin, the C-terminal fragment of the heparan sulfate proteoglycan perlecan, influences various signaling pathways in endothelial cells by binding to VEGFR2. In this study, we discovered that soluble endorepellin activates the canonical stress signaling pathway consisting of PERK, eIF2α, ATF4, and GADD45α. Specifically, endorepellin evoked transient activation of VEGFR2, which, in turn, phosphorylated PERK at Thr980 Subsequently, PERK phosphorylated eIF2α at Ser51, upregulating its downstream effector proteins ATF4 and GADD45α. RNAi-mediated knockdown of PERK or eIF2α abrogated the endorepellin-mediated up-regulation of GADD45α, the ultimate effector protein of this stress signaling cascade. To functionally validate these findings, we utilized an ex …

Anti-Signal Recognition Particle Antibody-Associated Severe Interstitial Lung Disease Requiring Lung Transplantation., Anam Qureshi, Daniel F. Brown Md, Lawrence Brent

Department of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine

Anti-signal recognition particle (SRP) antibodies are typically associated with immune-mediated necrotizing myopathy. Some patients with anti-SRP antibodies may have extramuscular manifestations including mild respiratory symptoms secondary to interstitial lung disease. We present a case of a 40-year-old female presenting with acute hypoxic respiratory failure secondary to anti-SRP antibody-associated interstitial lung disease with mildly elevated creatinine kinase but without evidence of necrotizing myopathy on muscle biopsy. After a complicated six-month hospitalization, the patient successfully received double lung transplantation and was eventually discharged on room air. Unexplained worsening interstitial infiltrates leading to persistent hypoxic respiratory failure in the setting of nonspecifically elevated …

Oral Localization Of Scardovia Wiggsiae, Graydon Ramos Carr

UNLV Theses, Dissertations, Professional Papers, and Capstones

Early childhood caries is one of the most prevalent diseases in the United States among children. The formation of caries is a complex, multifactorial process that is still being studied. Researchers have thought for years that Streptococcus mutans was the primary causative agent of early childhood caries. The recent discovery of a novel cariogenic pathogen, Scardovia wiggsiae and its significant contribution to the etiology of early childhood caries has led oral health researchers to re-evaluate this microorganism and its link to this disease. While there have been several projects undertaken within the University of Nevada, Las Vegas School of Dental …

Draft Genome Sequences Of Two Extensively Drug-Resistant Strains Of Acinetobacter Baumannii Isolated From Clinical Samples In Pakistan, Sara Lomonaco, Matthew A. Crawford, Christine Lascols, Debra J. Fisher, Kevin Anderson, David R. Hodge, Segaran P. Pillai, Stephen A. Morse, Erum Khan, Molly A. Hughes, Marc W. Allard, Shashi K. Sharma

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

Infections in immunocompromised patients that are caused by extensively drug-resistant (XDR) Acinetobacter baumannii strains have been increasingly reported worldwide. In particular, carbapenem-resistant A. baumannii strains are a prominent cause of health care-associated infections. Here, we report draft genome assemblies for two clinical XDR A. baumannii isolates obtained from hospitalized patients in Pakistan.

Efforts To Improve Diagnosis Of Bacteraemia By Reducing Blood Culture Contamination In An Emergency Department: Strategies And Outcome, Najma Shaheen, Mohammad Zeeshan, Naima Fasih, Joveria Farooqi, Kausar Jabeen, Seema Irfan

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

Objective: To assess the strategies and outcome for reducing blood culture contamination in order to improve the diagnosis of bacteraemia.
Methods: The interventional study was conducted at a tertiary care hospital in Karachi from January 1, 2013, to December 31, 2016. The blood culture contamination data related to the first year of the study was taken as the baseline pre-intervention data. Strategies were planned as intervention for improvement by consolidating training and education in the form of dedicated lectures, practising on mannequins and developing in-house video, replacing povidone with 2% chlorhexidine preparation spray plus 70% isopropyl alcohol swabs and inducting …

Expression Of Her-2/Neu In Oral Squamous Cell Carcinoma, Sana Mirza, Naila Hadi, Shahid Pervez, Sultan Zeb Khan, Sameer A. Mokeem, Tariq Abduljabbar, Nawwaf Al-Hamoudi, Fahim Vohra

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

Background: HER-2/neu is a member of the human epidermal growth factor (HER) family of transmembrane tyrosine kinases, which is significantly associated with the pathogenesis of various cancer types. The aim was to evaluate the expression of HER-2/neu in oral squamous cell carcinoma (OSCC) as a potential biomarker to target antigens for specific immunotherapy in OSCC.
Methods: One hundred and forty histologically diagnosed OSCC cases were identified. Four to five-micrometer thick formalin-fixed, paraffin-embedded tumor sections were stained with Haematoxylin and Eosin (H and E). Histological grade was assessed according to WHO/Broders classification, while tumors were staged according to the American Joint …

Catabolic Degradation Of Endothelial Vegfa Via Autophagy, Thomas Neill, Carolyn Chen, Simone Buraschi, Renato V. Iozzo

Department of Pathology, Anatomy, and Cell Biology Faculty Papers

Extracellular matrix-evoked angiostasis and autophagy within the tumor microenvironment represent two critical, but unconnected, functions of the small leucine-rich proteoglycan, decorin. Acting as a partial agonist of vascular endothelial growth factor 2 (VEGFR2), soluble decorin signals via the energy sensing protein, AMP-activated protein kinase (AMPK), in the autophagic degradation of intracellular vascular endothelial growth factor A (VEGFA). Here, we discovered that soluble decorin evokes intracellular catabolism of endothelial VEGFA that is mechanistically independent of mTOR, but requires an autophagic regulator, paternally expressed gene 3 (PEG3). We found that administration of autophagic inhibitors such as chloroquine or bafilomycin A1, or depletion …

Compliance Of Hand Written Transfusion Requisition Form And Improvement After Online Request - A Clinical Audit, Nadia Nasir, Mohammad Usman Shaikh, Natasha Ali, Shabneez Hussain

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

Objective: To assess the compliance of healthcare personnel with regard to sending completely filled transfusion requisition forms.
Methods: The audit was conducted at Aga Khan University Hospital, Karachi, and comprised requisition slips received at the hospital blood bank from September 2014 to February 2015. The British Committee for Standards in Haematology guidelines was used as the standard. Percentage of each variable on the proforma was analsyed. Rating Results: The audit and the re-audit both comprised 1000 transfusion requisition forms each. In the audit, The sum of total scores of all the transfusion requisition forms was 4911, indicating a compliance rate …

Exosomes In Transmission And Blocking Of Arthropod-Borne Flaviviral Infection And Pathogenesis, Wenshuo Zhou

Biomedical Sciences Theses & Dissertations

Vector-borne diseases (VBDs) are human illnesses that are transmitted by vectors such as ticks, mosquitoes, and fleas. These arthropods transmit infectious pathogens such as viruses, protozoa, and bacteria, to humans during their blood-feeding. According to the estimation of the WHO, billions of people are affected by VBDs worldwide, and about 700,000 deaths are reported annually. Currently, very few reliable VBDs control approaches and vaccines available to treat various VBDs. Additionally, approaches to control arthropod’ proliferation and migration are difficult to develop. Furthermore, molecular determinants and mechanisms for the transmission are poorly understood. This work describes two studies identifying the novel …

Retroperitoneal Isolated Enteric Duplication Cyst, Fariha Fazal, Patricia Okiro

General Surgery, East Africa

Enteric duplication cysts are rare congenital malformations of the gastrointestinal tract with an estimated incidence of 1:100,000 live births. Fewer still are isolated enteric duplication cysts (IEDC). Accurate diagnosis and timely excision of IEDCs can help in avoiding possible complications including bleeding from gastric mucosa and malignant transformation later in life. Currently, in the paediatric population, there are twenty reported cases in the literature worldwide. Of these, only three have been described in the retro peritoneum. We present a retroperitoneal IEDC, which was juxtaposed to the inferior vena cava. To the best of our knowledge, this has not been reported …

A Case Series Of Hyponatremia And Management In Hospitalized Patients, Jake N. Cho, Rebecca Ong, Izuchukwu Nwakoby

Nephrology

No abstract provided.

Comparison Of Clinical Presentation And Out-Comes Of Chikungunya And Dengue Virus Infections In Patients With Acute Undifferentiated Febrile Illness From The Sindh Region Of Pakistan, Uzma Shahid, Joveria Farooqi, Kelli L. Barr, Syed Faisal Mahmood, Bushra Jamil, Kehkashan Imtiaz, Zahida Azizullah, Faisal Malik, Dhani Prakoso, Maureen T. Long, E. Khan

Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine

Background: Arboviruses are a cause of acute febrile illness and outbreaks worldwide. Recent outbreaks of Chikungunya virus (CHIKV) in dengue endemic areas have alarmed clinicians as unique clinical features differentiating CHIKV from Dengue virus (DENV) are limited. This has complicated diagnostic efforts especially in resource limited countries where lab testing is not easily available. Therefore, it is essential to analyse and compare clinical features of laboratory confirmed cases to assist clinicians in suspecting possible CHIKV infection at time of clinical presentation.
Methodology: A prospective point prevalence study was conducted, with the hypothesis that not all patients presenting with clinical suspicion …

Combating Antibiotic Resistance Using Guidelines And Enhanced Stewardship In Kenya: A Protocol For An Implementation Science Approach, Jesse Gitaka, Moses Kamita, Dominic Mureithi, Davies Ndegwa, Moses Masika, Geoffrey Omuse, Moses Ngari, Francis Makokha, Peter Mwaura, Ronald Mathai, Francis Muregi, Matilu Mwau

Pathology, East Africa

Introduction: Antimicrobial resistance (AMR) is a growing problem globally especially in Sub-Saharan Africa including Kenya. Without any intervention, lower/middle-income countries (LMICs) will be most affected due to already higher AMR levels compared with higher income countries and due to the far higher burden of diseases in the LMICs. Studies have consistently shown that inappropriate use of antimicrobials is the major driver of AMR. To address this challenge, hospitals are now implementing antibiotic stewardship programmes (ASPs), which have been shown to achieve reduced antibiotic usage, to decrease the prevalence of resistance and lead to significant economic benefits. However, the implementation of …

Labrad : Vol 46, Issue 1 - March 2020, Aga Khan University Hospital, Karachi

LABRAD - Departments of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine and Radiology Archives

• Role of Immunofluorescence Studies in the Diagnosis of Autoimmune Disorders
• Cystathionine Beta-Synthase Deficiency
• Treatment of Factor VIII Inhibitor
• Effective Internal Communication in Laboratories
• Digital Breast Tomosynthesis
• Overview of Common Myeloproliferative Neoplasms
• Clinical Significance of free Androgen Index (FAI)
• Radiology Quiz
• The Best of the Past
• Section Of Histopathology: Newer Horizons
• A Webinar Series ‘Rare Links’
• A Look into the Eye can Unleash Vital Diagnostic Pearls for 32 Rare Disorders
• Lab & Rad Mesh up for the Early Recognition of Rare Disorders
• Polaroid

Worldwide Network For Blood And Marrow Transplantation (Wbmt) Recommendations For Establishing A Hematopoietic Stem Cell Transplantation Program In Countries With Limited Resources (Part Ii): Clinical, Technical And Socio-Economic Considerations, M Aljurf, D Weisdorf, S K. Hashmi, A Nassar, E Gluckman, M Mohty, D Rizzo, M Pasquini, M Hamadani, Salman Adil

Section of Haematology/Oncology

The development of hematopoietic stem cell transplantation (HSCT) programs can face significant challenges in most developing countries because such endeavors must compete with other government health care priorities, including the delivery of basic services. While this is may be a limiting factor, these countries should prioritize development of the needed expertise to offer state of the art treatments including transplantation, by providing financial, technological, legal, ethical and other needed support. This would prove beneficial in providing successful programs customized to the needs of their population, and potentially provide long-term cost-savings by circumventing the need for their citizens to seek care …

Ewing Sarcoma Of Larynx: A Rare Case In A 5-Year-Old Boy, Hamdan Ahmed Pasha, Shayan Khalid, Muhammad Wasif, Moghira Siddiqui, Nasir Ud Din

Section of Otolaryngology, Head & Neck Surgery

Ewing Sarcoma of the head and neck region is an extremely rare entity. Treatment usually involves surgery, chemotherapy and radiotherapy in varying sequences. We present the third case to date of Ewing sarcoma of the larynx in a paediatric population. A 5-year-old boy presented to emergency room with acute respiratory distress. Computerized tomography scan showed a mass in the supraglottis; he was intubated using videolaryngoscope and tracheostomy was avoided, mass was removed by cold dissection. Final histopathologic examination revealed Ewing sarcoma. Further workup showed no systemic metastasis. Patient was advised adjuvant therapy which the family refused. Currently he is doing …