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On The Estimation Of Volumes Of Roadways: An Investigation Of Stop-Controlled Minor Legs, Joel Stephen Barnett Feb 2015

On The Estimation Of Volumes Of Roadways: An Investigation Of Stop-Controlled Minor Legs, Joel Stephen Barnett

Dissertations and Theses

This effort seeks to answer the question; can a transferable model be developed from easily obtainable, publicly available land-use, census, roadway, and network data for the use in safety performance functions? 474 stop-controlled minor legs were used as the training data set using ordinary least squares regression. A best-fit model of maximum independent variables, n=12 was chosen using an exhaustive approach using Mallow's Cp to select the model with least bias in the predictors. The results of the analysis revealed that the combination of variables from Washington, Ohio, and North Carolina did not have a strong relationship. The best-fit model …


Chemical Reaction Network Control Systems For Agent-Based Foraging Tasks, Joshua Stephen Moles Feb 2015

Chemical Reaction Network Control Systems For Agent-Based Foraging Tasks, Joshua Stephen Moles

Dissertations and Theses

Chemical reaction networks are an unconventional computing medium that could benefit from the ability to form basic control systems. In this work, we demonstrate the functionality of a chemical control system by evaluating classic genetic algorithm problems: Koza's Santa Fe trail, Jefferson's John Muir trail, and three Santa Fe trail segments. Both Jefferson and Koza found that memory, such as a recurrent neural network or memories in a genetic program, are required to solve the task. Our approach presents the first instance of a chemical system acting as a control system. We propose a delay line connected with an artificial …


Safety At Half-Signal Intersections In Portland, Oregon, Todd Robert Johnson Feb 2015

Safety At Half-Signal Intersections In Portland, Oregon, Todd Robert Johnson

Dissertations and Theses

The safety at half-signalized intersections in Portland, Oregon is analyzed in this thesis using 10 years of crash history and analysis of video that was collected at a subset of intersections. A half-signalized intersection has a standard red-yellow-green traffic signal for automobiles on the major road, a stop sign for motorists on the minor road, and a pedestrian signal with actuation for pedestrians and/or bicyclists on the minor road. Although prevalent in Canada, this type of intersection control is not typically found in the United States because the MUTCD explicitly prohibits its use. Half-signal use is limited mostly to two …


An Admiral And Courageous Impatience, William "Ike" Eisenhauer Feb 2015

An Admiral And Courageous Impatience, William "Ike" Eisenhauer

Engineering and Technology Management Faculty Publications and Presentations

In this article the author focuses on Hyman G. Rickover, a U.S. Navy Admiral, and his philosophy of engineering ethics. He mentions Rickover's view of the proper operation and engineering of a nuclear reactor plant, from which industrial engineers in healthcare can drew ideas to make healthcare systems reliable. Also mentioned is the book "The Rickover Effect" by Theodore Rockwell.


Modeling Regional Secondary Organic Aerosol Using The Master Chemical Mechanism, Jingyi Li, Meredith Cleveland, Luke D. Ziemba, Robert J. Griffin, Kelley Barsanti, James F. Pankow, Qi Ying Feb 2015

Modeling Regional Secondary Organic Aerosol Using The Master Chemical Mechanism, Jingyi Li, Meredith Cleveland, Luke D. Ziemba, Robert J. Griffin, Kelley Barsanti, James F. Pankow, Qi Ying

Civil and Environmental Engineering Faculty Publications and Presentations

A modified near-explicit Master Chemical Mechanism (MCM, version 3.2) with 5727 species and 16,930 reactions and an equilibrium partitioning module was incorporated into the Community Air Quality Model (CMAQ) to predict the regional concentrations of secondary organic aerosol (SOA) from volatile organic compounds (VOCs) in the eastern United States (US). In addition to the semi-volatile SOA from equilibrium partitioning, reactive surface uptake processes were used to simulate SOA formation due to isoprene epoxydiol, glyoxal and methylglyoxal. The CMAQ-MCM-SOA model was applied to simulate SOA formation during a two-week episode from August 28 to September 7, 2006. The southeastern US has …


Understanding Residential Location Choices For Climate Change And Transportation Decision Making: Phase 2 Report, Kelly J. Clifton, Steven R. Gehrke, Kristina Marie Currans Feb 2015

Understanding Residential Location Choices For Climate Change And Transportation Decision Making: Phase 2 Report, Kelly J. Clifton, Steven R. Gehrke, Kristina Marie Currans

Civil and Environmental Engineering Faculty Publications and Presentations

This research builds on the related Phase 1 project. In this second phase, we continue to study neighborhood and housing preferences that shape the residential location decision process. An online experimental survey tool is developed to investigate lifestyle preferences and tradeoffs that households make in their location decisions. This computer-aided experimental survey draws upon stated preference methods to engage participants in questions about residential location and transportation options. The survey infrastructure was extensively piloted (6-10% response rate). The 10-minute survey can be deployed for future investigations. This infrastructure is a contribution for the integration of visualized neighborhood typologies, or concepts, …


Semi-Modular Delay Model Revisited In Context Of Relative Timing, Hoon Park, Anping He, Marly Roncken, Xiaoyu Song Feb 2015

Semi-Modular Delay Model Revisited In Context Of Relative Timing, Hoon Park, Anping He, Marly Roncken, Xiaoyu Song

Electrical and Computer Engineering Faculty Publications and Presentations

A new definition of semi-modularity to accommodate relative timing constraints in self-timed circuits is presented. While previous definitions ignore such constraints, the new definition takes them into account. The difference on a design solution for a well-known speed-independent circuit implementation of the Muller C element and a set of relative timing constraints that renders the implementation hazard free is illustrated. The old definition produces a false semi-modularity conflict that cannot exist due to the set of imposed constraints. The new definition correctly accepts the solution.


Webinar: Exploring Pedestrian Responsive Traffic Signal Timing Strategies In Urban Areas, Sirisha Murthy Kothuri Jan 2015

Webinar: Exploring Pedestrian Responsive Traffic Signal Timing Strategies In Urban Areas, Sirisha Murthy Kothuri

TREC Webinar Series

The role of walking in the development of healthy, livable communities is being increasingly recognized. In urban areas, intersections are often viewed as a deterrent to walking, as their operation primarily favors automobiles, leading to large and unnecessary delays for pedestrians. There is currently very limited research on accommodating and/or prioritizing pedestrians at signalized intersections in the North American context. Pedestrians are often considered as a deterrent to efficient vehicular traffic flow and therefore active efforts to include them in operational decisions at intersections have been lagging. This research aims to fill that gap by understanding factors that influence pedestrian …


Sensible Air To Air Heat Recovery Strategies In A Passive House, Santiago Martin Rodriguez-Anderson Jan 2015

Sensible Air To Air Heat Recovery Strategies In A Passive House, Santiago Martin Rodriguez-Anderson

Dissertations and Theses

Due to rising energy costs and concerns about global climate change, high performance buildings are more in demand than ever before. With roughly 20% of the total energy consumption in the United States being devoted to residential use, this sector represents a significant opportunity for future savings. There are many guidelines and standards for reducing building energy consumption. One of the most stringent is the Passive House Standard. The standard requires that that air infiltration is less than or equal to 0.6 air changes per hour at a 50 Pascal pressure difference (ACH 50), annual heating energy is less than …


Static Conflict Detection For A Policy Language, Alix Trou, Robert Dockins, Andrew Tolmach Jan 2015

Static Conflict Detection For A Policy Language, Alix Trou, Robert Dockins, Andrew Tolmach

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

We present a static control flow analysis used in the Simple Unified Policy Programming Language (SUPPL) compiler to detect internally inconsistent policies. For example, an access control policy can decide to both “allow” and “deny” access for a user; such an inconsistency is called a conflict. Policies in Suppl. follow the Event-Condition-Action paradigm; predicates are used to model conditions and event handlers are written in an imperative way. The analysis is twofold; it first computes a superset of all conflicts by looking for a combination of actions in the event handlers that might violate a user-supplied definition of conflicts. SMT …


Analyzing Free-Base Nicotine Content In The Particulate Matter Of Mainstream Tobacco Smoke Using A Headpace Solid-Phase Microextraction Gc/Ms Method, Christopher S. Motti Jan 2015

Analyzing Free-Base Nicotine Content In The Particulate Matter Of Mainstream Tobacco Smoke Using A Headpace Solid-Phase Microextraction Gc/Ms Method, Christopher S. Motti

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

The acid/base chemistry of cigarette smoke allows nicotine, the primary drug in mainstream tobacco smoke, to exist in protonated and free-base forms. Evidence suggests that most of the nicotine present in mainstream tobacco smoke is in the particle phase. αfb is the fraction of particle-phase nicotine in the free-base form. The magnitude and rate of nicotine deposition in the respiratory tract is dependent on αfb because only the free-base form of nicotine can volatilize from the particle phase of an inhaled aerosol and, once gaseous, rapidly deposit. This study develops a headspace solid-phase microextraction technique coupled with gas …


Geotechnical Statistical Evaluation Of Lahore Site Data And Deep Excavation Design, Aiza Malik Jan 2015

Geotechnical Statistical Evaluation Of Lahore Site Data And Deep Excavation Design, Aiza Malik

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

Geotechnical characterization for foundation design is critical during preliminary planning, designing and feasibility studies of various engineering projects. In this research, an effort has been made to develop a geotechnical database for the city of Lahore, Pakistan. This database would aid geologists and engineers involved in the geotechnical design and planning of engineering projects in Lahore. The project area has been divided into zones geographically. Soil profiles have been developed for all zones, which provide ranges of soil properties and SPT-N values at regular intervals. Furthermore, the research also focuses on deep excavations in urban areas of Lahore, Pakistan and …


Parametric Study Of Rocking Shallow Foundations Under Seismic Excitation, Benjamin I. Herdrich Jan 2015

Parametric Study Of Rocking Shallow Foundations Under Seismic Excitation, Benjamin I. Herdrich

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

Conventional design of structures relies on incorporating a certain level of inelastic deformation into select components to provide seismic energy dissipation, while ensuring the foundation remains relatively stationary. However, this inelasticity comes at the cost of severe damage to the structure, which often is no longer suitable to occupancy after a seismic event. In contrast with conventional structures, structures with rocking foundations shift the ductility demands away from the structure itself, and onto the underlying soil, which may result in less damage and greater stability. The purpose of this study is to explore the behavior and performance of a simple …


Key Aspects For Lrfd Implementation For Driven Pile Capacity By Dynamic Methods, Natalie R. Ehrlich Jan 2015

Key Aspects For Lrfd Implementation For Driven Pile Capacity By Dynamic Methods, Natalie R. Ehrlich

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

Inputs and interpretation procedures for pile wave equation analysis, which correlates measured field dynamic driving response to axial pile static capacity, are highly dependent on site-specific soil conditions and field practices. The 6th Edition of the AASHTO LRFD Bridge Design Specifications provide generalized guidelines for pile design, but do not account for variability in region-specific soils and field practices. A comprehensive literature review of region-specific resistance factor recalibration efforts across the U.S. has given insight into the range of implementation issues encountered, especially the key decisions around choosing a restrike (BOR), along with measures of efficiency and treatment of …


A Demonstration Of The Bigdawg Polystore System, Aaron J. Elmore, Jennie Duggan, Michael Stonebraker, Magdalena Balazinska, Ugur Cetintemel, Vijay Gadepally, J. Heer, Bill Howe, Jeremy Kepner, Tim Kraska, Samuel Madden, David Maier, Timothy G. Mattson, S. Papadopoulos, J. Parkhurst, Nesime Tatbul, Manasi Vartak, Stan Zdonik Jan 2015

A Demonstration Of The Bigdawg Polystore System, Aaron J. Elmore, Jennie Duggan, Michael Stonebraker, Magdalena Balazinska, Ugur Cetintemel, Vijay Gadepally, J. Heer, Bill Howe, Jeremy Kepner, Tim Kraska, Samuel Madden, David Maier, Timothy G. Mattson, S. Papadopoulos, J. Parkhurst, Nesime Tatbul, Manasi Vartak, Stan Zdonik

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

This paper presents BigDAWG, a reference implementation of a new architecture for “Big Data” applications. Such applications not only call for large-scale analytics, but also for real-time streaming support, smaller analytics at interactive speeds, data visualization, and cross-storage-system queries. Guided by the principle that “one size does not fit all”, we build on top of a variety of storage engines, each designed for a specialized use case. To illustrate the promise of this approach, we demonstrate its effectiveness on a hospital application using data from an intensive care unit (ICU). This complex application serves the needs of doctors and researchers …


Needed Computations Shortcutting Needed Steps, Sergio Antoy, Jacob Johannsen, Steven Libby Jan 2015

Needed Computations Shortcutting Needed Steps, Sergio Antoy, Jacob Johannsen, Steven Libby

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

We define a compilation scheme for a constructor-based, strongly-sequential, graph rewriting system which shortcuts some needed steps. The object code is another constructor-based graph rewriting system. This system is normalizing for the original system when using an innermost strategy. Consequently, the object code can be easily implemented by eager functions in a variety of programming languages. We modify this object code in a way that avoids total or partial construction of the contracta of some needed steps of a computation. When computing normal forms in this way, both memory consumption and execution time are reduced compared to ordinary rewriting computations …


S-Store: Streaming Meets Transaction Processing, John Meehan, Nesime Tatbul, Cansu Aslantas, Ugur Cetintemel, Jiang Du, Tim Kraska, Samuel Madden, David Maier, Andrew Pavlo, Michael Stonebraker, Kristin A. Tufte, Hao Wang Jan 2015

S-Store: Streaming Meets Transaction Processing, John Meehan, Nesime Tatbul, Cansu Aslantas, Ugur Cetintemel, Jiang Du, Tim Kraska, Samuel Madden, David Maier, Andrew Pavlo, Michael Stonebraker, Kristin A. Tufte, Hao Wang

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

Stream processing addresses the needs of real-time applications. Transaction processing addresses the coordination and safety of short atomic computations. Heretofore, these two modes of operation existed in separate, stove-piped systems. In this work, we attempt to fuse the two computational paradigms in a single system called S-Store. In this way, S-Store can simultaneously accommodate OLTP and streaming applications. We present a simple transaction model for streams that integrates seamlessly with a traditional OLTP system. We chose to build S-Store as an extension of H-Store, an open-source, in-memory, distributed OLTP database system. By implementing S-Store in this way, we can make …


Desiderata For A Big Data Language, David Maier Jan 2015

Desiderata For A Big Data Language, David Maier

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

Data management and analytics systems for big data have proliferated, including column stores, array databases, graphanalysis environments and linear-algebra packages. This burgeoning of systems has lead to a surfeit of language and APIs. It is time to consider a new framework that can span these systems and simplify the programming and maintenance of Big Data applications. There are two key goals for such a framework:

Portability: It should be relatively easy to move an application or tool developed on one platform to operate against another. As a corollary, back-end data and analytics services should be swappable in a particular …


Usage Based Topology For Dcns, Qing Yi, Suresh Singh Jan 2015

Usage Based Topology For Dcns, Qing Yi, Suresh Singh

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

Many data center network topologies are designed to provide full bisection bandwidth for tens of thousands of servers in order to achieve high network throughput and server agility. However, the utilization rate of DCNs on average is below 10%, which results in a significant waste of network resources and energy. Many researchers propose consolidating network traffic flows to maximize the set of idle network equipment and switching them to low power mode to save energy. In this paper, we propose using skinnier network topologies to meet performance requirements of realistic loads thus saving not only energy but capital cost as …


Query From Examples: An Iterative, Data-Driven Approach To Query Construction, Hao Li, Chee-Yong Chan, David Maier Jan 2015

Query From Examples: An Iterative, Data-Driven Approach To Query Construction, Hao Li, Chee-Yong Chan, David Maier

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

In this paper, we propose a new approach, called Query from Examples (QFE), to help non-expert database users construct SQL queries. Our approach, which is designed for users who might be unfamiliar with SQL, only requires that the user is able to determine whether a given output table is the result of his or her intended query on a given input database. To kick-start the construction of a target query Q, the user first provides a pair of inputs: a sample database D and an output table R which is the result of Q on D. As there will be …


A Microsimulation Of Novel Intersection Designs, Aman Kinfemichael Woldetinsae Jan 2015

A Microsimulation Of Novel Intersection Designs, Aman Kinfemichael Woldetinsae

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

The focus of this project is to see how a turbo roundabout and a protected intersection designs behave when they are applied on two study sites in Portland, OR. PTV VISSM is used to model, analyze and compare the performances of these designs with the existing intersection. In addition, the best features of the protected intersection and the turbo roundabout were combined to create a new intersection design that is safer for the bicyclists and also performs better than the existing intersection.

The analysis is conducted for five different volume scenarios for both the study sites. The results of the …


Design Of Piles In Liquefied Soils For Combined Inertial And Kinematic Demands, Arash Khosravifar, J. Ugalde, T. Travasarou Jan 2015

Design Of Piles In Liquefied Soils For Combined Inertial And Kinematic Demands, Arash Khosravifar, J. Ugalde, T. Travasarou

Civil and Environmental Engineering Faculty Publications and Presentations

The design of piles penetrating liquefiable soils poses a number of challenges, including 1) accounting for the effects of liquefaction on lateral soil springs (p-y), 2) estimating liquefaction-induced kinematic demands (lateral spreading displacements) including pile-pinning effects, and 3) combining the effects of inertial demands from superstructure and kinematic demands from liquefied ground. This paper illustrates two approaches to address the above questions: A) a simplified decoupled approach adopting equivalent static analysis (ESA), and B) a detailed, coupled approach adopting nonlinear dynamic analyses (NDA). These approaches are presented through example projects showing the limitations and the potential conservatism associated with the …


Geostatistical Examination Of The Geotechnical Portland Bes Databases With Emphasis On Silt, Alex K. Baumann Jan 2015

Geostatistical Examination Of The Geotechnical Portland Bes Databases With Emphasis On Silt, Alex K. Baumann

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

Willamette Valley silt deposits from historical catastrophic flood events present a difficult problem for subsurface engineers practicing in the Portland, Oregon area. Silts exhibit behavior of two very well-documented soil types, but publications containing mechanical properties for silts are scant, especially for local silts. Thus, the need for links between real Portland site investigation data and silt properties is high. To further exemplify the need for documented knowledge of local silts, this project reveals the evolving state of practice to incorporate more Pacific Northwest seismic analyses in preparation for a subduction zone earthquake. The geotechnical Portland BES databases contain thousands …


Comparing Mode Shares For Non-Residential Destinations In Urban And Suburban Environments, Tasnia Subrin Jan 2015

Comparing Mode Shares For Non-Residential Destinations In Urban And Suburban Environments, Tasnia Subrin

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

To ensure facility for multimodal transportation is one of the most important concerns in today's transportation sector, with initiatives being taken to make multimodal transportation popular. The built environment variables have a strong relationship with transportation mode choice, but whether that relationship holds true in urban and suburban neighborhoods in the same manner has not been considered. Using data for three non-residential land uses, this research explores whether the built environment variables in suburban areas influences mode share like it does in urban areas. We used survey data conducted at the establishments regarding respondents' travel characteristics from a previous study, …


Eigenvector Pruning Method For High Resolution Beamforming, Jorge E. Quijano, Lisa M. Zurk Jan 2015

Eigenvector Pruning Method For High Resolution Beamforming, Jorge E. Quijano, Lisa M. Zurk

Electrical and Computer Engineering Faculty Publications and Presentations

This paper introduces an eigenvector pruning algorithm for the estimation of the signal-plus-interference eigenspace, required as a preliminary step to subspace beamforming. The proposed method considers large-aperture passive array configurations operating in environments with multiple maneuvering targets in background noise, in which the available data for estimation of sample covariances and eigenvectors are limited. Based on statistical properties of scalar products between deterministic and complex random vectors, this work defines a statistically justified threshold to identify target-related features embedded in the sample eigenvectors, leading to an estimator for the signal-bearing eigenspace. It is shown that data projection into this signal …


A Theory Of Name Resolution, Pierre Néron, Andrew Tolmach, Eelco Visser, Guido Wachsmuth Jan 2015

A Theory Of Name Resolution, Pierre Néron, Andrew Tolmach, Eelco Visser, Guido Wachsmuth

Computer Science Faculty Publications and Presentations

We describe a language-independent theory for name binding and resolution, suitable for programming languages with complex scoping rules including both lexical scoping and modules. We formulate name resolution as a two-stage problem. First a language-independent scope graph is constructed using language-specific rules from an abstract syntax tree. Then references in the scope graph are resolved to corresponding declarations using a language-independent resolution process. We introduce a resolution calculus as a concise, declarative, and language- independent specification of name resolution. We develop a resolution algorithm that is sound and complete with respect to the calculus. Based on the resolution calculus we …


Thermodynamic Grain Size Stabilization Models: An Overview, Mostafa Saber, Carl C. Koch, Ronald O. Scattergood Jan 2015

Thermodynamic Grain Size Stabilization Models: An Overview, Mostafa Saber, Carl C. Koch, Ronald O. Scattergood

Mechanical and Materials Engineering Faculty Publications and Presentations

Grain boundaries in a nanocrystalline microstructure produce an increase in the excess free energy of the system. Grain growth is a consequence of the thermodynamic driving force reducing this excess. Thermodynamic stabilization is an approach based on eliminating the driving force by suitable alloy additions that can produce a metastable equilibrium state at the nanoscale grain size, as opposed to kinetic stabilization where the grain growth mobility is restricted by pinning and/or drag mechanisms. The present paper reviews and compares various models proposed for thermodynamic stabilization.


Dispersion Modeling Of Nitrogen Dioxide (No2) And Fine Particulate Matter (Pm2.5) From Backup Generators At Data Centers In Prineville, Oregon, Brooke E. Harmon Jan 2015

Dispersion Modeling Of Nitrogen Dioxide (No2) And Fine Particulate Matter (Pm2.5) From Backup Generators At Data Centers In Prineville, Oregon, Brooke E. Harmon

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

As our society becomes increasingly dependent on digital communication (e.g., social media and email) and computerized storage (e.g., digitized medical records and government documents), tech giants such as Google, Facebook, and Apple are constructing and managing an increasing number of massive Internet data centers. These data centers house a network’s most critical systems and are vital to the continuity of daily operations. Requiring as much electricity as a medium size city, data centers rely on complex auxiliary power systems to prevent disruption to service. These backup systems consist of tens of multi-megawatt diesel-powered generators that release combustion byproducts, including over …


Pushover Analysis Of Retrofitted Reinforced Concrete Buildings, Hamidreza Nahavandi Jan 2015

Pushover Analysis Of Retrofitted Reinforced Concrete Buildings, Hamidreza Nahavandi

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

For the past decade or more, the structural engineering profession has been using the nonlinear static procedure (NSP) or pushover analysis. Modeling for such analysis requires the determination of nonlinear properties of each component in the structure, quantified by strength and deformation capacities, which depend on the modeling assumptions. Pushover analysis is carried out for either user-defined nonlinear hinge properties or default-hinge properties, available in some programs based on the FEMA-356 such as SAP2000. While such documents provide the hinge properties for several ranges of detailing, programs may implement averaged values. In the realm of retrofitting of existing structures, few …


Dynamic Effect Of Light And Turbulence On Algal Photosynthetic Rate: A Water-Quality Model, Andres R. Rivas Jan 2015

Dynamic Effect Of Light And Turbulence On Algal Photosynthetic Rate: A Water-Quality Model, Andres R. Rivas

Civil and Environmental Engineering Master's Project Reports

Several studies provide evidence that algal photosynthetic rates depend on various changing factors such as light attenuation, temperature, and nutrient limitation (Chapra, 1997). However, recent papers show that turbulence and photosynthetic rate dynamics is also important (Ross, 2006). In this study, the photosynthetic rate model used is the one proposed by Chapra (1997), where it depends directly on temperature, nutrient and light limitation factors. At the same time, the effect of turbulence or random-walk of algae particles in the water column was also introduced in this model. To account for this factor, the model added was that proposed by Ross …